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someone invests in us because we have the technology leadership, it manifests itself in products that lead the competition and allows us to win in markets. >> perhaps it's time to ramp that spending up, jim, to figure out other avenues in which they'll be able to deploy their chips. >> they cut it to 12 billion because they were able to reuse some of the factories. the interesting thing is goldman is saying you're spending three times what you're spending in 2009 and getting the same bang for the buck. intel which is a fabulous manufacturer, is spending too much money and not getting any reward for it. they're paying good dividend while you're waiting. >> what are you waiting for? for ultra tablets? >> i think that comes out, gdot. it's not like they haven't figured out transitions in the past and what was the ability to do just that. >> ultimately, they've been able to reinvent and reinvent by making things smaller and smaller, another really nice guy, but this was supposed to be a good-bye swan song and instead it turned a rap on the call, i felt. i felt like people were saying gross mar
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